Curse

Tzu · Nov 16, 2008, 08:31 PM // 20:31

recent drawing I did of Zholn (the monk) and Tzunedaine (the ranger).

Tzunedaine is supposed to look quite big compared to Zholn, she's 2-3 heads taller than him in-game... XD

Supposedly Tzunedaine is painting back on the Dragon Scalp Design he used to wear when they first met. Usually Zholn wears a black headwrap, but I'm not very fond of it... XP
Zholn is a little reluctant, he likes to keep his head warm, but Tzunedaine always has the final say in such matters ;P

Tzunedaine is wearing a Norn Armour, but I changed it around a bit as I saw fit for the setting. No need for all the fur in that climate.

EDIT: Critique is of course very welcome, always. I can use and constructive crit to better myself for my commissions.

AerisAMP · Nov 16, 2008, 11:11 PM // 23:11

I don't know too much about art, but in my opinion, the white on the ranger kills the entire picture. Everything else is great, but my eye keeps getting drawn to the white on her armor. Maybe try something more subtle?

Tzu · Nov 16, 2008, 11:21 PM // 23:21

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Originally Posted by AerisAMP

I don't know too much about art, but in my opinion, the white on the ranger kills the entire picture. Everything else is great, but my eye keeps getting drawn to the white on her armor. Maybe try something more subtle?

aye, I got the same comments off incgamers. I guess there's something there, I just didn't notice it while drawing. I tried to keep true to the original norn attire with the white, but I should've just allowed myself to do whatever I wanted.
thanks.

EDIT: spent two minutes editing it and voilá! My original idea!

any better?

Widowmaker · Nov 17, 2008, 12:07 AM // 00:07

In my opinion, much better. The white seemed to lack any shading at all, which made it feel very flat set against everything else.

Nice work.

Konig Des Todes · Nov 17, 2008, 12:13 AM // 00:13

The ranger is now camaflauged into the background!

Nice picture (I personally didn't mind the white, but it looks better this way

).

If I had more money, I'd ask for commisions in your other thread. >.<

I like my main characters enough to get multiple drawings of them.

Tzu · Nov 17, 2008, 12:14 AM // 00:14

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Originally Posted by Widowmaker

In my opinion, much better. The white seemed to lack any shading at all, which made it feel very flat set against everything else.

Nice work.

yup, I see it now. I just tend to be sloppy with work I do for people I know ... ^.^''''
thanks though, I value especially your opinion very highly!

Kerwyn Nasilan · Nov 17, 2008, 03:28 AM // 03:28

very nice, the faces look kind of funny to me, but good non-the-less

ZenRgy · Nov 17, 2008, 03:45 AM // 03:45

Why is it so dark? I can't tell the bodies from the background.

Tzu · Nov 17, 2008, 11:52 AM // 11:52

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Originally Posted by ZenRgy

Why is it so dark? I can't tell the bodies from the background.

that's a bit of an exaggeration, don't you think? :P
I wanted the light to be dark and mellow, I like it that way.

Nemesis Xero · Nov 17, 2008, 12:51 PM // 12:51

Very cute picture Tzu, I like it

ZenRgy · Nov 17, 2008, 01:25 PM // 13:25

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Originally Posted by Tzu

that's a bit of an exaggeration, don't you think? :P
I wanted the light to be dark and mellow, I like it that way.

I'm being serious, the lighting makes it very hard to distinguish the bodies from the background and considering you've losed a sunlit scene shouldn't they be more visible?

This picture could also use a real background, screenshot and premade backgrounds look lazy and drain the picture of it's beauty. But this could be called a good start.

Tzu · Nov 17, 2008, 01:30 PM // 13:30

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Originally Posted by ZenRgy

I'm being serious, the lighting makes it very hard to distinguish the bodies from the background and considering you've losed a sunlit scene shouldn't they be more visible?

I'm trying really hard to see what you mean, but to me the bodies are easily distinguishable from the background, with an exception of the colours, but that was entirely on purpose. The lighting I'm happy with, as I said before.

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This picture could also use a real background, screenshot and premade backgrounds look lazy and drain the picture of it's beauty. But this could be called a good start.

well, apparently (90% of the feedback so far) this drawing is very, very, very poor. So why should I spend any time on making the background look any better? Wrapping a pig in sequins never helped much.

ZenRgy · Nov 17, 2008, 02:35 PM // 14:35

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Originally Posted by Tzu

well, apparently (90% of the feedback so far) this drawing is very, very, very poor. So why should I spend any time on making the background look any better? Wrapping a pig in sequins never helped much.

You're over-exaggerating. These people are just giving honest opinions and even then they're sweetening them so you don't get offended. Most illustration forums would be much harsher.

Tzu · Nov 17, 2008, 06:09 PM // 18:09

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Originally Posted by ZenRgy

You're over-exaggerating. These people are just giving honest opinions and even then they're sweetening them so you don't get offended. Most illustration forums would be much harsher.

No, I'm not. I'm including feedback I've got from other sources as well. I frequent a few illustration forums, and they're actually kinder. But I don't mind you being brutally honest, feedback is best when it's not tainted by someone's sympathies.

So no worries, I'm not going to get offended, I rarily do.

Konig Des Todes · Nov 17, 2008, 11:11 PM // 23:11

I personally like the screen shot backgrounds. Unless your photoshopping (like EmJay), imo, screen shots are the best background.

But this all is matter of opinion.

Bestian Trueflight · Nov 18, 2008, 10:04 AM // 10:04

What aspects were criticised in other forums? Because to me, although the colouring and lighting could use perhaps a little work (hypocritical, I know), the lineart looks fine. Surely it's salvageable?

~Alex